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omari7
05-21-2006, 04:43 AM
Hello Guys:

I will be selling some Richard Long design, RLA Enclosures. I have four RLA double 12" dildo configuration enclosures and four RLA double 15"Pussiance.

These speakers came from the legendary Ministry of Sound in England.
The RLA system at Ministry of Sound employed some of Richard Long designs including; the Puissance - named after Kenny Powers [Puissance = Power in French],and a midbox called the Double "D" {double 12" with a Dildo style phase plug} - Double D or DD Horn is a low mid device with 2 x 12". Here are some pictures at my storage in Connecticut. I thought I would present these to you guys before I put then on EBAY.

ar49@nyu.edu

omari7
05-21-2006, 04:48 AM
more pics

omari7
05-21-2006, 04:56 AM
more pics

omari7
05-21-2006, 05:06 AM
More pics

omari7
05-21-2006, 05:21 AM
more pics

Elliot Thompson
05-26-2006, 04:15 PM
Hello Omari7!

If your pm box isn't full with those gems you posted, :D you might want to give Ebay a try. The JBL lens will pull in a pretty penny in the home audiophile market.

Lovin those (Would look like) dual 12's with the phase plug btw...


Best Regards,

LuvLatins
05-27-2006, 06:59 PM
Scott turn on the thumbnail option

omari7
10-26-2006, 08:51 AM
turn it on Scott

clubman5
10-26-2006, 01:16 PM
It is on! Check what your doing, you can post thumbnails.

DSA.audio
10-26-2006, 11:00 PM
b/c the file is .gif? swap to .jpeg.... PRESTO! :D


what is the horn flare on those DDs? exponential?

omari7
10-29-2006, 03:38 PM
"For midrange, they mostly did exponential flares, subs were hyperbolic, like the Bertha.

Exponential mean the flare expands exponentially every two inches to the desired size."

clubman5
10-29-2006, 05:40 PM
Im not 100% sure if the DD horn is exponential or not. I assume it may be.

DSA.audio
10-29-2006, 05:45 PM
From the picture, it looks like the flare of an Altec 811 or 511...

that's why I guessed it that way...

clubman5
10-29-2006, 06:01 PM
Yes, I agree, I ssume it is exponential, and thats what many companies were doing back then, so thats why I think it is.

But, Im not totally sure.

davidb
10-30-2006, 04:43 AM
Well blow me gently. Cabinets came from MoS London did they? Strange how I should walk next door to my office and find them all sitting pretty on the dance floor at MoS London then.
Amazing.

David Bradshaw
Head of Production

Ministry of Sound Group
103 Gaunt Street
London, SE1 6DP
UK

T: +44(0) 207 740 8600
F: +44(0) 207 403 5348
DD: +44(0) 207 740 8752

E: dbradshaw@ministryofsound.com
W: www.ministryofsound.com

omari7
11-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Mr. Bradshaw:

This is the original not the second upgrade. Please post the pics.

davidb
11-10-2006, 06:12 AM
Pictures attached of the original bertha subs, bass, and twin phase plug mid cabinets. Still sitting on the floor at MoS London. Someone has told you a big fib I think.
Perhaps the JBL Lens have come from here, though I cannot confirm this, or indeed that we ever had such a cabinet here at any time. I can find no referance to them in our paperwork or any pictures here, so I would assume not.
The top box is another custom job, made for us by Martin Audio some 7 odd years ago (a little before my time here) featuring their W8C mid/hf waveguide and components.

der geile ami
11-10-2006, 06:17 AM
eek, davidb, that no dancing sign is a buzzkill! Is that some UK regulation?

davidb
11-10-2006, 06:21 AM
Not a regulation as such, just to cover our asses if someone gets up there and then falls off and hurts themselves!

omari7
11-10-2006, 12:53 PM
I guess he could have fibbed to hype it up, but they were made my the RLA international. This same late design of Richard Long that consisted of JBL Lens, Poussance, DD, and Birtha were also in some clubs here in the states, Cananda, and the UK. The guy was English, and he said these speakers were from when they upgraded some of the club's fullrange.

Do you know what was replaced in certain areas of the club?

What type of woofers are you chaps using in the DD and Poussance today?

Cheers

davidb
11-11-2006, 04:36 AM
Hey Omari, Indeed kit has been replaced in other rooms here over time, but not these cabinets. The kit in the other rooms used to be standard JBL gear, and a little bit of JBL custom shop stuff. All gone now, Martin Audio Blackline and Wavefront in the rest of the clubs rooms now. Nowadays the Bertha's have B&C, the Puss EV, the DD still have JBL and as I said, the mid hi/hi are Martin. Amps are still the original Crest Pro series too.

omari7
11-11-2006, 11:00 AM
At the time of RLA International EAW was making Birthas for the company. Do the Birthas at MOS have EAW BH882ip on the back, or was it originally with the JBL woofers.

Are you using Crest 9001 on the subs? These day at MOS are they playing strickly house or is there any Reggae or Rap?

Cheers

mixalaki
11-11-2006, 05:01 PM
Not a regulation as such, just to cover our asses if someone gets up there and then falls off and hurts themselves!

I was about to say.

I loved dancing on those berthas! ;)

edwardcampbell
11-11-2006, 10:05 PM
At the time of RLA International EAW was making Birthas for the company. Do the Birthas at MOS have EAW BH882ip on the back, or was it originally with the JBL woofers.

Are you using Crest 9001 on the subs? These day at MOS are they playing strickly house or is there any Reggae or Rap?

Cheers

Bertha's were built by a guy in New York name Curtis who built for Richard Long, the EAW line did not come into play until later in company and EAW did not build too many. Most of the US cabinet were built by curtis. RIP In fact I hold the original plans by curtis for the berthas.

dino59
11-11-2006, 10:48 PM
i was told that a guy named chuck from newark nj. built richards, levans cabs and some of his booths .can anyone verify that ?

clubman5
11-11-2006, 10:52 PM
Chuck did build cabinets for Richard, but most of the NY clubs had berthas built by Curtis.

Chuck can still build cabinets, but, he takes a long time to complete. He built two of my J Horns, took a year to get them.

soundmanshorty
11-11-2006, 10:53 PM
i was told that a guy named chuck from newark nj. built richards, levans cabs and some of his booths .can anyone verify that ?

Built some of Richards cabinets he infact built all the Cabinets for Zanzibar and has done some work for me in the past aswell, But Curtis Built alot for Richard aswell.

soundmanshorty
11-11-2006, 10:55 PM
Bertha's were built by a guy in New York name Curtis who built for Richard Long, the EAW line did not come into play until later in company and EAW did not build too many. Most of the US cabinet were built by curtis. RIP In fact I hold the original plans by curtis for the berthas.

The levan horns for Phil at Sound Factory in 1988 rt on the dancefloor off the plans Bryan wilson gave the. These were the same berthas that were in PG , Zanz, 54, before they changed to the newer cabinet

edwardcampbell
11-11-2006, 11:31 PM
Well there it is, history as it is told. USA, NY NJ

Shorty, Scott, Ed at it again. LOL

Vintage Audio History

RJJNYC
08-08-2012, 08:36 AM
Ran across this picture of Curtis Forte's Sound Factory employee ID and was reminded of this thread (would never have known who he was without this board and the knowledge of the people here).

http://www.discomusic.com/images/photos/clubs/soundfactory-ny-idcard-phase1.jpg

From here: http://www.discomusic.com/clubs-more/14860_0_6_0_C/