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Old 04-08-2006, 06:46 AM
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I ran my input pots around 2 o clock, and the master volume from 11 o clock to the 1 o clock position. Some recordings nneded more some less.


i also find it interesting on this mixer as with the 92 they recommend running the input pots at 10 as well as the master volume for signal to noise or some crap
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Old 04-08-2006, 11:40 AM
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I think it is hard to really define what is musical or not...

some like yanni some like nitzer ebb


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strange, this Sense guy never replied...I even PMed him a couple of days ago!
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:49 PM
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i also find it interesting on this mixer as with the 92 they recommend running the input pots at 10 as well as the master volume for signal to noise or some crap
I agree, and If you have an old Bozak manual, it, also recommends running the input volume pot as high as possible, and then use the master volume as the level control.

I used to try to do it that way, but, around 6 to 7 on the input level, 11 o clock to 1 o clock on the master.
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strange, this Sense guy never replied...I even PMed him a couple of days ago!


PM's on this messageboard are almost useless and don't work properly, in my opinion

you'll also notice most of the users will only realize they had a PM, a few months after
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strange, this Sense guy never replied...I even PMed him a couple of days ago!
Hes got an 800 number listed in his post, CALL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That was very interesting. I have always been a huge fan of the Bozak. Hated the UREI when it first came out. I do however agree with Scott, the UREI has a sweeter High end and not as big of a punch on the low end like a Bozak.

Never heard the V6 but I do prefer tube amps over solid state. Yes tubes have distortion but as weird as this sounds it warm and pleasent distortion.

Nice review Scott.
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Old 04-08-2006, 10:48 PM
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You guys are all correct in what you say, the cleanest isnt always neccesarily the best sounding. But, I never, and I do mean never, liked the sound of my room when I use the house outs of the urei to drive my system. I always preferred the booth outs, which are fed directly off the IC, unlike the house, which has two additional transistors, and the output transformers. Mids are much cleaner, bass is punchier and sounds deeper, and more musical, highs are sweeter, and more extended.


This happen to my bozak either.
I get booth out signal from master pot's input as i learn here
and compare the sounds of both out put.
always master out sounds "dirty" than booth out.

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Interesting Mix Trinity. Very different. Kind of ambient. The highs stand out quite a bit. The low end is pronounced but not distorted.

I like your mixing style, it is very unique and very unlike anything I have heard before.

Thanks for sharing the mix.

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Yes sorry I wasnt checkin this thread or my PM's. But if you or anyone else is still interested...

Please call me to discuss..

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Interesting Mix Trinity. Very different. Kind of ambient. The highs stand out quite a bit. The low end is pronounced but not distorted.

I like your mixing style, it is very unique and very unlike anything I have heard before.

Thanks for sharing the mix.

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It's funny I have both the urei and bozak and ever time I switch what is in my console I say I like one better than the other. I guess now I have to get a v6 to be fair. Unfortunately I'll have to save awhile for that to happen.

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Old 04-12-2006, 09:53 PM
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scott

call me crazy but i also find the this mixer has a multi dimensional sound to it....i don't wanna say like 3 dimensional
but i have been noticing layers in the music .. ....like a riff will seem projected out....especially vocals seem like there floating outta the track..i'm sorry i don't know how to explain this stuff right.....but that the best i can do

maybe the hearing is going!
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Because of some new European law, Allen and Heath may have to stop making the Xone:V6.

http://www.retrothing.com/2006/04/allen_heath_xon.html
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Because of some new European law, Allen and Heath may have to stop making the Xone:V6.

http://www.retrothing.com/2006/04/allen_heath_xon.html


Are you trying to start a rumour ??


That website doesn't say such.
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Because of some new European law, Allen and Heath may have to stop making the Xone:V6.

http://www.retrothing.com/2006/04/allen_heath_xon.html


well for a starter he says "may stop" and not "will stop"...

Anyways, I contacted Andy Rigby Jones and hopefully he will get back to me soon and then we will know more.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:48 PM
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I don't get it either. Where do they say thay might take it out of production?

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Old 04-19-2006, 05:30 PM
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I don't think this is a big deal. Everyone is converting to lead free manufacturing and getting any particular piece of equipment qaualified as lead free is straight forward process. My company (nothing to do with audio but using lots of electronics) is going through this now. If they are only starting to convert products there may be some delay until they clear the backlog of other, higher selling lines.


I can't belive that any manufacturer would need to kill a flagship product over lead free manufacturing.
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Anyways, I contacted Andy Rigby Jones and hopefully he will get back to me soon and then we will know more.



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I didn't yet but I noticed that the link we are talking about has been edited to the extent that know the second part is gone...

Maybe that is the "reply"... :-)

p.s. to all V6 users. If you use a standard, commercial edition CD and you don't push the channel LED over the green zone, at which o' clock direction is the gain knob turned at? Am I asking this, because in one pic of the V6 the two gains being used were just about pushed all the way to the right. I don't like it when its like that thus I ask this question to all of you lucky enough to have used one.
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Old 04-21-2006, 11:16 AM
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maybe trying to overdrive the tubes.... overdriving tubes is very much different than overdriving solid state gear....

but i dunno, total conjecture on my part (i've never had the chance to play with this piece)


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to start
technics 1210s mk2 with vampire wire rca cabling and cardas tonearm wire fully recalibrated my me myself and i (i will stand toe toe with jay anderson and Kab anyday)

vampire cables from mixer to my speakers.
speakers Hafler TR8 as once used in capitals mastering studio.
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my rane 2016A i would say is a 25% increase in sound quality over say pioneer djm XXX

now the test
Sorry poor peoples like me cannot afford the v6 right yet so we got a xone 92.

the short

is i would dare to say the the A&H is 3d in its approach-the sound imaging is incredible they highs sparkle and shiver become alive to my ears studio stereo effects are breath taking. midrange not what i had hoped but clear and elegant very fluid. -yet not clouded.
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:02 PM
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bass
the low end on that machine is awesome
i have no bozak to compare it to but
if they gave it more steroids it would blow some subs (in the hands of a dj who does not understand gain structure) the bass is clean and clear almost to the point of wow i have a tb303 right here.
everything

that goes in is what comes out.

rane almost matches it but does not

in short its imaging not as clear as the a&H imagine looking thru 2 paynes of glass one is 5% blue tint and the other is 8% blue tint that is the best way to describe the differences.but its is a fine mixer needs a bit more bass to it (with expander this can be corrected)

and for the buck i would get a used rane with expander should both units be under $1000




now
my next test will be

daddyjacks fully hotvod (i called you long ago scott never got around tyo sending it to you.)
SW disco mixer

burr brown IC
riken ohm resistors
black gate non polar caps with fk series polar caps in various places.

vs rane
and a&H
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bass
the low end on that machine is awesome
i have no bozak to compare it to but
if they gave it more steroids it would blow some subs (in the hands of a dj who does not understand gain structure) the bass is clean and clear almost to the point of wow i have a tb303 right here.
everything

that goes in is what comes out.

rane almost matches it but does not

in short its imaging not as clear as the a&H imagine looking thru 2 paynes of glass one is 5% blue tint and the other is 8% blue tint that is the best way to describe the differences.but its is a fine mixer needs a bit more bass to it (with expander this can be corrected)

and for the buck i would get a used rane with expander should both units be under $1000




now
my next test will be

daddyjacks fully hotvod (i called you long ago scott never got around tyo sending it to you.)
SW disco mixer

burr brown IC
riken ohm resistors
black gate non polar caps with fk series polar caps in various places.

vs rane
and a&H


Since I have the SW 421, I am very interested in this test. David was very helpful in getting me some information on this mixer. I want to hotrod mine also.

Your test will be anticipated with anxious eyes.

I am really growing to like the SW as it is. However, there are some improvements I want to make. Pots, chips, resistors and caps are just what the doctor ordered.

I wish you would get on more often. Your insight into the SW 421 would help me alot in my project.

Model 421
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