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Old 05-30-2007, 04:39 AM
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Monitor advice please

Hi,

Could anyone please recommend a decent quality active monitor(s) that would be suitable for use in a small bar environment. The budget will be around 200 - 250 and need to be available in the UK.

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Old 05-30-2007, 04:52 AM
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This is one product that I am consideing:

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/spea...er/truth_b2031
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:29 AM
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You dont want a product deisgned for the studio to sit in a bar, it will never last. Your budget is a bit low, but look into molded plastic actives from the lieks of jbl eon, rcf, db technologies, fbt, etc. One of your biggest issues will be installing the box. pole mount? Sitting the monitors on the console will probably not bring them high enough and you cant just fly everything.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:58 AM
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Thanks for your input. I know what you are saying about those speakers being more Studio monitors and that they probably won't last in a bar environment.

These are probably a lot better suited:

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/speakers/jbl/eon15_g2
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/speakers/db/opera210

I realise that the budget is low but I know there will not bemuch money available for monitors so I'm trying to find the best fix.

Could one of the Mackie, JBL or Db active speakers be used on their own as mono to cut costs or wouldn't that really work?
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:55 AM
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The Mackie SRM450's are pretty good. I've used 'em before for monitors on stands. There are always bargains on the 'bay.

The sound nice too with a pair of the SWA1801's too for reasonable outlay.

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:00 PM
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Thanks for your input. I know what you are saying about those speakers being more Studio monitors and that they probably won't last in a bar environment.

These are probably a lot better suited:

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/speakers/jbl/eon15_g2
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/speakers/db/opera210

I realise that the budget is low but I know there will not bemuch money available for monitors so I'm trying to find the best fix.

Could one of the Mackie, JBL or Db active speakers be used on their own as mono to cut costs or wouldn't that really work?


Yes, there's no problem using a monitor in Mono. As for the active moulded plastic speakers out there I prefer dB Technologies over both the JBL EONs and the Mackies, even though the models you linked to are not really comparable to each other, since the JBL has a 15" woofer and the dB a 10".
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:42 PM
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the speakers to listen to in this category are mackie, db and rcf. leave jbl eons aside. horrible. don't miss trying rcf. maybe you get something second hand to fit yout budget.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:49 PM
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Again, thanks for your advice.

I definately think that 2nd hand equipment is the way forward to get better gear for less money. I'll try and listen to some db and rcf speakers to make up my own mind.

Jay
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:05 PM
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active monitors

for $199 each. no tax. free shipping.

these cannot be beat.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...ker?sku=600735
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:35 PM
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musicians friend

Nice price, but Musicians Friend ?

Chances are you'd open the box and find they'd shipped you a microwave oven !
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so you can make some warm milk for your coffee. it could be worse.
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:30 PM
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the nicest monitors(self powered) that i have seen are the rcf they have the cleanest flattest sound , im not sure what they cost but they are worth every penny. the model i used to use was a ten inch /one inch molded from some kind of plastic but the box was considerably heavy but this box could be heard over the ev deltamax system installed in the club at 135 db and it did not hurt my ears.

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Old 05-31-2007, 12:40 PM
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rcf tt08 would be my choice for nearfield monitors

http://www.rcfaudio.com/vediMacro.ph...08/product.htm

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Old 05-31-2007, 12:51 PM
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the nicest monitors(self powered) that i have seen are the rcf they have the cleanest flattest sound , im not sure what they cost but they are worth every penny. the model i used to use was a ten inch /one inch molded from some kind of plastic but the box was considerably heavy but this box could be heard over the ev deltamax system installed in the club at 135 db and it did not hurt my ears.

peas

I'm interested in some RCF monitors myself, when you say the sound is flat do you mean flat like studio monitors?
I've got some Alesis m1 actives and i hate the sound of them compared to my Tannoy 609's, they're far to flat and bassy, the high end has no sizzle or magic.
So I suppose my question is how these monitors compare sound wise to Hifi stuff like the 609's.
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Old 05-31-2007, 02:37 PM
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the rcf is pretty flat yes like a studio monitor they are very diffeent then alesis boxes

i would suggest a good eq to go with them and then you could attenuate the sound to your liking

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Old 05-31-2007, 03:16 PM
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the rcf is pretty flat yes like a studio monitor they are very diffeent then alesis boxes

i would suggest a good eq to go with them and then you could attenuate the sound to your liking

peas

thanks for the reply
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:45 PM
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If you put the speakers in areas that won't subject them to abuse, studio monitors are just fine.

I'd first be a little patient and try to find some good used studio monitors or RCF/Mackie powered monitors.
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Old 06-01-2007, 01:31 AM
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Whew, those TT08's are eye wateringly expensive.

Maybe check these ones out --- ART 310-A

http://www.rcfaudio.com/vediMacro.ph...-A/product.htm

Should be able to pick them up at some Dj stores in the U.K.
Also worth noting, they are an update of the 300-A, so ebay is the place to go for the old ones.

Spotted a couple of pairs of the 300 passive versions up for auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RCF-ART-300-PR...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RCF-ART300-PAI...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 06-01-2007, 10:05 AM
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I think the art 310-A is not considered to be a monitor, but its a very nice powered speaker and worth the money for sure
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