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Old 10-11-2003, 12:17 PM
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When did per-channel EQs pop up?

Hey all, I have another expert question for you all

Around what time, and on what kinds of DJ mixers did per-channel EQs pop up? I can't find much about this at all.
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Old 10-11-2003, 12:45 PM
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Re: When did per-channel EQs pop up?

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Hey all, I have another expert question for you all

Around what time, and on what kinds of DJ mixers did per-channel EQs pop up? I can't find much about this at all.
Id say we started to see this on DJ mixers in the 90,s! I could be wrong though, however all the mixers I have seen from the 70-80,s didnt have per channel EQ,s!

This was always a feature on PA boards and studio mixing consoles, so I would venture to say this is where it came from!

As for what brand of DJ mixer was the first to incorparate this I dont know!
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Old 10-11-2003, 12:46 PM
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Re: Re: When did per-channel EQs pop up?

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Id say we started to see this on DJ mixers in the 90,s! I could be wrong though, however all the mixers I have seen from the 70-80,s didnt have per channel EQ,s!

This was always a feature on PA boards and studio mixing consoles, so I would venture to say this is where it came from!

As for what brand of DJ mixer was the first to incorparate this I dont know!
ah, so it's that new is it? So the DJ's dependence on them is pretty recent...

Interesting - thanks again Scott!
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Old 10-11-2003, 01:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: When did per-channel EQs pop up?

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ah, so it's that new is it? So the DJ's dependence on them is pretty recent...

Interesting - thanks again Scott!
Yes, i would tend to think its relatively new to the DJ market! Back when, we only had basic tone controls and crossovers! Then we would get an external program EQ, but this wasnt for each independent channel!
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Old 10-11-2003, 04:17 PM
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The first time I saw this feature was on a mixer made by Biamp (I think they're defunct), in 1987. It was pretty much a basic 2-channels-with-crossfader product, but had 3 or 4 bands of EQ on each channel.
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Old 10-11-2003, 07:18 PM
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Hi there

The first DJ mixer I know of with individual eq's per channel would be the Formula Sound PM80, introduced in 1980. Formula Sound were, and still are, pretty expensive mixers, so they weren't that commonly used. As stated in a previous post, on more affordable mixers eq's per channel started showing up in the 90's.

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Old 10-11-2003, 08:33 PM
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Hi there

The first DJ mixer I know of with individual eq's per channel would be the Formula Sound PM80, introduced in 1980. Formula Sound were, and still are, pretty expensive mixers, so they weren't that commonly used. As stated in a previous post, on more affordable mixers eq's per channel started showing up in the 90's.

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wow, that's great! This really helps with an argument in my thesis.

Thank you again - I wouldn't know what I'd do if I didn't have all you older DJs and sound engineers to tell me what's what!
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Old 10-11-2003, 09:57 PM
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If you dont mind my asking...

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wow, that's great! This really helps with an argument in my thesis.

Thank you again - I wouldn't know what I'd do if I didn't have all you older DJs and sound engineers to tell me what's what!
what is the argument your trying to make? Im just interested in what your trying to point out and why!
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Old 10-11-2003, 10:22 PM
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Re: If you dont mind my asking...

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what is the argument your trying to make? Im just interested in what your trying to point out and why!
It's a small point in a larger argument (and trust me, I'll show you the whole thing when it's done), but basically, I'm trying to highlight the multiple manufacturing traditions that went into the development of the DJ mixer.

The per-channel EQs are a great example of a studio equipment manufacturing company (Formala Sound) venturing into the DJ world, and adding features that they were familiar with. So basically, the analysis begs the question: would DJ mixers today have per-channel EQs if the studio-influenced manufacturers like Biamp and Formula Sound didn't get into the business?
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Old 10-11-2003, 10:52 PM
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OK

I see where your going with this! As was said before I do believe it was trickle down technology from its higher priced cousins!

I also feel mixers made now reflect what DJ,s and the marketplace want!

I want to read your thesis when your finished with it, interesting to document the development of DJ orientd gear in chronological order!
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Old 10-12-2003, 02:25 AM
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formula sound

I remenber the Formula Sound pm-80,around mid 80`s.

It was a high end mixer with great sound (and still is).
We all remember this mixer because it had the "bass" knob on top and the "high" knob on bottom,nowadays its the opposite (and an industry standard)

It also featured 2 master volumes (L+R),it was a great mixer,prior to the PM-90,the europpean anwer to the UREI 1620 interms of sound quality and constuction.
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Old 10-12-2003, 10:15 AM
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Doesn´t Rodec claim that they introduced this feature?
I think I found that somewhere on their HP
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I think it was the Rodec MX 18 from 1986
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Old 10-12-2003, 12:21 PM
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Doesn´t Rodec claim that they introduced this feature?
I think I found that somewhere on their HP
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I think it was the Rodec MX 18 from 1986
I'm not sure - Formula Sound says their PM80 came out in 1980. Either ways, I think we'll find out soon, I just emailed them.
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Old 10-13-2003, 01:22 AM
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I got my first mixer around 1991/92 and it had EQ's on each channel. It also had a crappy little 4 second digital sampler in it.
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Old 10-14-2003, 08:23 AM
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Re: formula sound

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I remenber the Formula Sound pm-80,around mid 80`s.
You were right nleote - someone replied to me and told me that, to the best of their knowledge, they were the first. Thanks so much for your help, I never would've found them if it wasn't for you!
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Old 10-14-2003, 09:18 AM
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GLI 5990 ?

Did'nt this come out in late 70's ? It had EQ's a fader and some wierd beat match led's...
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Old 10-14-2003, 11:31 AM
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Re: GLI 5990 ?

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Did'nt this come out in late 70's ? It had EQ's a fader and some wierd beat match led's...
Yeah, but the GLI had an add on external three band EQ module, but it wasnt per channel!
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Re: GLI 5990 ?

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Did'nt this come out in late 70's ? It had EQ's a fader and some wierd beat match led's...


Hola sensei !
Hope all is well.
How's the upgrades ?

I'm not sure that one is the 5990 ( I gotta check the # too ).
The one I know was all rotary except for the crossfader which was not assignable.
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Old 10-14-2003, 02:02 PM
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Re: Re: GLI 5990 ?

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Hola sensei !
Hope all is well.
How's the upgrades ?

I'm not sure that one is the 5990 ( I gotta check the # too ).
The one I know was all rotary except for the crossfader which was not assignable.
Its coming along! As usual with me, I have made some changes from what I had originally planned to do!
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Old 10-14-2003, 02:41 PM
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Re: Re: Re: GLI 5990 ?

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Its coming along! As usual with me, I have made some changes from what I had originally planned to do!


The first step is to admit you have a problem.
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Old 10-14-2003, 02:53 PM
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The first step is to admit you have a problem.
My life has become unmanegable because I cant take the Bozak out of my system!
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Old 10-14-2003, 03:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GLI 5990 ?

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My life has become unmanegable because I cant take the Bozak out of my system!


( we need some more smiley's because that is the funniest sh** I've read all day and this doesn't even come close. )
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:43 PM
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3880 had external unit with vu meters and eq. I begged them to do EQ for each channel on the mixer, but it didn't happen. I told them that my records varied greatly and needed it...

5990 came a year or so later and it did have per input eq (and a crossfader).

Anyone got pictures of the GLI mixers??

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Old 08-24-2007, 01:49 AM
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Thanks for the pic.

That PMX 9000 looks new.

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