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Old 04-17-2007, 02:38 PM
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What is the best amp for home use?

Greetings my name is Milo from Chicago and I am new here at Wave music. I was wondering can anyone suggest a good quality audiophile amp for home use? Something for a decent price.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:49 PM
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Greetings my name is Milo from Chicago and I am new here at Wave music.
I was wondering can anyone suggest a good quality audiophile amp for home use?
Something for a decent price.

in the audiophile category, people seem to like Krell and Mark Levinson....

I, unfortunately, have no experience with either...

and they tend to be quite expensive, as are seemingly most things
considered praiseworthy by the "audiophile" crowd....

many older pro-audio amps may be also be worthy of consideration,
but if they are considered "audiophile," I dunno.....

maybe look into....
Hafler, Bryston, Crown, Flame (i mean Phase) Linear, Crest Audio

(for home use, many people like amps without a fan, so just keep
that in mind)


I am sure there are others....

as to what power you need, i feel a bit more info may be needed....
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:01 PM
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Old BGW are very nice and can be had for cheep as well.

I just hooked up:

BGW 250e
Crown DC-300a Series II
Audioarts crossover

And man does it sound good.

THD is less than .1% - so this puts it in audiophile territory.

All this cost me around $300 off of ebay.
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:06 PM
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Bryston 3B or 4B. They have a 20 year transferable warranty, so you can pick up a used one and save some coin.

Krell is nice too, but IMO a little too cold and transparent. I have listened to a KSA series amp on some Martin Logan Monoliths, and the imaging was incredible. A friend of mine had a CD that had some live drumming where the drummer walked around the microphone(s). I SWEAR it sounded like the drummer was in the room playing behind me. It had a very hard time accepting that I was listening to a two channel system.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:27 PM
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For that nice home hi fi sweet sound, you might also want to consider McIntosh.

Many amps, various power ratings, and prices on eBay.

Or, try audioclassics.com.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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i have a technics sa ex320 its very flat and has loads of power for my home setup and you can get one used on ebay for about 40 bucks
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:01 PM
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if you have money tho get a bryston
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:18 PM
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Thank you all. I want to get into class A audio equipment but some brands mentioned above are too expencive and I only know so much about class A audio.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:29 PM
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How much power are you looking for? And how much are you looking to spend?
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:34 PM
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Between $500 to $1000. I want an amp that is very efficient and that will help create a clear warm sound. I am not looking for much power.
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:53 PM
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You could find 100 to 150 watts per channel of good clean hi fi power for that amount of money on ebay. You can find used Brystons, McIntosh, maybe even an Audio Research for this money.

I have a mint 1981 McIntosh 2125, 125wpc, that cost me $1200, and this amp has that verry smooth, clear warmish tone, yet not fatiguing to listen to. Very delicate sounding top end, also makes nice midrange, and warm, full sounding bottom. Pretty to look at as well, those Mc blue meters!

Brystons are also verry good, but perhaps a touch clinical sounding. Accuracy, and ultra clean power, super reliability, are Brystons signature characteristics, but warmth is not. As well as their transferrable 20 year warranty.

BGW is super reliable, warm sounding, heavy deep bottom, but, definitely leans to the pro, disco end of things. Good sounding, but, not exactly what I would term hi fi.

Krell? Well, I have heard these, to me, they are very clinical, edgy top end, no warmth, very analytical, but considered to be TOP High End goods. I didnt care for Krell. Makes great tight bass, but that was about it.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:37 PM
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At less than $100 used the Alesis RA-100 is really something to hear. It's not a powerhouse by any means but it's cleaner and flatter than many audiophile grade amps. In fact it trashed many of the top amps in it's power class when it was introduced.

I run one into my Sentry IIIs and they sound great. I've also used them with my old LSR-32s ( sold'm) and again I got fantastic clean sound at moderate to loud levels. With my NS-1000Ms the amp is right at home. There is nothing to complain about with this combo. In fact you'll have a hard time finding a bad opinion of this amp except for the spring clips and of course when the amp is used outside of it's intended purpose. It was built as a studio reference amp and it sounds like one.

* The RA-100 doesn't have RCA or balanced XLR inputs - 1/4 only
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:42 PM
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in the absolute bargain area, i second the ra-100. nice clean sound for the money. with these amps being such a bargain, it only makes sense to buy two and run each amp in bridged mode (although i find one plenty for a small room).

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Old 04-18-2007, 12:27 AM
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In fact you'll have a hard time finding a bad opinion of this amp

You might find a few Pro Audio guys who have a negative opinion of it. But they like to bitch about everything.

I've had one for years or so. Its been fine.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:53 AM
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We sell Mark Levinson and Krell where I work and I have to say Krell is still one of my all time favorites, but really expensive. I have an old Technics SE-A5MKII from the early 90's running my classic pair of Mirage M3's and I still love this amp (and combo). I like Bryston now too, but if I had a pot of gold laying around, I think I might go with the JBL synthesis system (which uses all harman components, which i'm not a fan of, but.....). They have one of the higher end systems on display here in a home theater setup and it's just amazing. You're talking about 5 figure minimum to get into a system though I believe.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:55 AM
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I don't know about that JBL synthesis system (for the money at least)

did you know that the crossovers (at least a few generations ago), are rebadged Ranes?
(granted, with a higher build spec)

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ad.php?t=12017
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:37 PM
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ra100

I had an alesis RA 100 way back when. Actually it was my first power amp. Worked good, but the pots got scratchy after only a few months. So if you get one make sure the pots are good. Also it seamed to run out of power fast.

Curently I use a Crown PS 200 and PS 400 that I like the sound of and I picked up each of them for $100 locally. They have no fan and are good for home use.

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Old 04-18-2007, 02:47 PM
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If you're gonna hold onto it for a while, i suggest getting something better by spending around $1,000 or slightly more and asking clubman for specifics on good Mcintosh models or similar like them. It'll be worth the difference IMO. Then be patient and check craigslist.org and ebay.com on a regular basis.

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Old 04-18-2007, 07:06 PM
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in the absolute bargain area, i second the ra-100. nice clean sound for the money. with these amps being such a bargain, it only makes sense to buy two and run each amp in bridged mode (although i find one plenty for a small room).

jeff h


You can do the with the newer RA-150'n up and with the Matica series. The 100 doesn't have a bridged mode. The new unit have a bit more power and more connect options. They sound pretty much the same in quality.


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Old 04-19-2007, 01:36 AM
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Don't know where u found that but that stuff is ancient. The processors are now rebadged BSS pieces with some expanded flexibility. I'm not a BSS fan by ANY means, but after demo'ing the synthesis at work, it's FIERCE!

lol\\http://jblsynthesis.com/products/the...S&Region=US A



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I don't know about that JBL synthesis system (for the money at least)

did you know that the crossovers (at least a few generations ago), are rebadged Ranes?
(granted, with a higher build spec)

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ad.php?t=12017
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:01 AM
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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I have a pro version of the Bryston 3B running KEF C55's. It is way over powered for home use, but having balanced inputs and monolythic build quality is a plus. It definately sounds better when it is working hard though!
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Old 04-30-2007, 03:06 AM
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I have had a bryston 3b, mcintosh 2100 and a bgw 750c running a pair of dynaudio bm15 and the bgw has the best tone and bottom end of all of the above..

not the most perfect imaging, amazing sound and warm low end... this bgw is beat to shit too, looks like i threw it out of truck going 350..
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Mark Levinson are reeeeally good amplifiers a friend of mine has it at home and it really sounds great he had also a preamp so he can connect devices ..

i dont remmeber the model of his B&W SPeakers anyways he get a new model and brand by now.. hes crazy ..
I have my old Mcintosh Mac 4100, with 2 Isoplanar XR-3 Speakers, if youre not def you will love this babes i saw them all time at ebay,

The Mac its a receiver, fits 2 TT 2 tapes 2 Aux AM FM 2 Outs, LOOPS etc have a bunch of connections in the back. I admit that the Phono pre of this unit sound IMo very very good, so I connect the Two TT there directly , and the Output of the receiver goes to my Audio Interfase
here are some pics of my gear .



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Old 05-07-2007, 01:19 PM
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You should check out older Accuphase gear, too. If you're on a really tight budget, H/K 730 and A-402 can be had for next to nothing. Amazingly good poweramp sections with dual power supplies. Retrodisko, that's one sweet lookin' receiver!
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