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Old 03-06-2003, 05:04 PM
jfunke jfunke is offline
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Allen & Heath Mixers Xone 62

I read the threads all the time, and have a burning question I would like to throw to the group of experts. I have been toying around with the idea of putting my 2-turntable-based rig into a semi-mobile 3-turntable based rig w/ CD. Among other items that I need insight on is the choice of mixer, and wanted to get everyones input on the Xone62 and Xone 464. I cannot mix on a rotary mixer.

Does the allen&heath have the ability to adjust the main mix vs the cue PFL in the phones? Maybe it's just my style but prefer (really really prefer) a console that will allow adjustments of the PFL vs the Main house mix in the phones.

And any general inputs, good, bad or indiffernt on the Allen & heath consoles would be appreciated.

I can also be reached by e-mail to jfunke@eqsound.com

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Old 03-12-2003, 04:17 PM
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Xone 62

Hi Justin

Just like you I'm not really fond of rotary mixers. We might get banned from this board for saying that... Back to being serious, I guess it's just a matter of what type of mixer you're used to and what you used when learning to mix.

I have a Xone:62 and I think I can shed some light over your question. The Xone:62 does not have ability to control the PFL vs the Main signal in the headphones. The main signal is actually affected by the level of the master fader. Also, the gain structure on the Xone:62 is such that the 0db point is at the top of both channel faders and master fader. This means that in order to get balanced level between pfl and master, you have to set both channel faders and master fader at the top position.

My general opinion of this mixer is that it's a great mixer that feels good to use and has a clean noise free sound. It's not a Bozak or Urei, but definitely a great mixer and it kicks but compared to Pioneer, Vestax and other mixers that are best sellers nowadays. Depending on where you live there are a couple of alternatives worth looking into. For example:
Formula Sound, www.formula-sound.com
Rodec, www.rodec.be
D&R, www.d-r.nl
Ecler, http://www.ecler.es

Good luck finding a mixer you like.

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Old 03-13-2003, 12:42 AM
nleote nleote is offline
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mixer and mixers

Here in europe i dont think we can say we had a good "rotary mixers" experiency,it really didnt came out to be "fashionable" or even matter of talk until the Rane MP 2016 came out and ,and all this rotary "mania",going trhu history (Urei and bozak).

The main reason ,i think, was that both Urei and Bozak didnt enter in the European market,at least in a wider scale,everyone knew that NYC djs used rotary mixers ,but there werent any available here.

I also had my first rotary mixer experience 2/3 years ago (Rane 2016) and i liked it,a lot,to point of considering buying an Urei. ( i guess i will not be banned from this forum...lol)

From all the info i gathered on mixers components and quality,the best option for a non-rotary high quality mixer ,its the formula Sound Pm-90,it was discontinued 4-6 yaers ago,but to my knowledge (and to a lot of techs also)it can match the sound of an Urei,with slide faders,eq per chanel,crossfader,and its completly modular up to 8 fader modules.

You can get these used in good condition,because everyone started to replace them with "fashionable" Pionners Djm or Rane MP2016,but like the Urei ,they can get very pricey.

I think this is the best quality you can get,way beter than Rodec,ecler or Allen &heath.

I aldo can ask and try to get you one,email me if you need more info: nleote@netcabo.pt
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Old 03-13-2003, 12:56 AM
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pm-90 info

The PM-90
Frequency Response (measured with e.q. set to flattest position)
AUX outputs and Music only outputs 20Hz - 20kHz 0.5dB
Programme Outputs 50Hz - 20kHz 0.5dB
(Sub-sonic filter -3dB at 20Hz; slope 18dB per octave)
Distortion (THD) frequency 1kHz)
Any input to any audio output O/P @ +20dBV better than 0.01%
Noise Measured 20Hz - 20kHz
Mono Module
Microphone i/p (standard) Ref 150R Equiv. input noise < -125dBU
Microphone i/p (special) Equiv. input noise < -128dBU
Stereo Module
Line input (unity gain) Equiv. input noise < -90dBU
RIAA stage Ref 5mV at 1kHz Input shorted 80dBV 'A' weighted
Mono Module
Microphone max. 70dB
Line max. 30dB
Stereo Module
Line i/p (max) 20dB
Maximum Input Level
Mono Module
Microphone input (min gain) +2dBV
Line input +25dBV
Stereo Module
Line input (min gain) +20dBV
RIAA input -8dBV 400mV
Input Impedances
Mono Module
Microphone input >2K ohms active balanced
Line input >10K ohms active balanced
Stereo Module
Line input or RIAA 47K ohms unbalanced
All balanced outputs are self-compensating.
Either terminal may be grounded for unbalanced operation.
Dimensions (Excl. knobs & amp connectors)
Width Height Depth
4 Channel PM-90 330mm (13") 267mm (10.5") 76mm (3")
8 Channel PM-90 483mm (19") 267mm (10.5") 76mm (3")
12 Channel PM-90 635mm (25") 267mm (10.5") 76mm (3")
Ext. PSU - PSU4 175mm (6.9" 75mm (3") 215mm (8.5")
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Old 06-24-2003, 03:28 AM
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Anyone know anything about this mixer?

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Old 06-24-2003, 07:51 PM
sankathi sankathi is offline
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europe (germany) is rotary free !

i agree...these mixers are not very popular in europe...
maybe at the moment things are changing !
but it will take some time to see more rotarys in my country...
ive seen only ONE Rane 1620 at ebay.de in the last 12 months !
by the way: a really really good mixer from the states was BIAMP SCM 7600...
this was my first mixer...
incredible warm sound...NO gain (who needs that ?)
and nice features...
what happened to this company ?
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Old 06-25-2003, 07:47 AM
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Greetings from Germany

so Im not the only german visiting this board
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