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Old 03-05-2012, 08:42 PM
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New mixer

GREAT. Now we have the DJM850.
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Old 03-06-2012, 02:25 PM
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I really fail to see the point of this mixer with the DJM 900...
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:03 PM
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keep the plastic cased units moving through the inventory system?
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:54 PM
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my thoughts exactly.
they prob. had some extra DJM 800 faceplates left and didn't want to throw them away
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:47 PM
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They're trying to make sales to those who can't afford the 900.

Compared to the 800, the face plate is different-it looks to be a single piece. You'll need to pull the entire face to access the faders. There's extra buttons to the right of the house knob and the case screws are in different places.

I don't believe it's made up from leftover 800 bits.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:19 PM
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i don't think so either...
I was more commenting on the (admittedly generalized) notion
that many 'more hip and trendy' DJs seem to ditch their perfectly good gear
for the new stuff when it gets to the street....
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:06 PM
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Of course they don't share the same faceplate, but I just find it difficult to understand why they built this mixer. it is priced only slightly under the DJM 900. but the 900 works better with the cdj 900 & 2000. the 850 lacks that connectivity but its only slightly cheaper.

A replacement for the DJM 700 would've made more sense.
Now Pioneer has got 3 relatively new mixers in the 1500 euro + segment, 2 in the below 600, but nothing in between, since the DJM 700 is most likely going out of production.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:15 PM
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It looks to be about $400 less than the 900, $400 more than the 700.

If some DJ is looking at mixers and he can afford the 700 but not the 900, the 850 would be very attractive being right between the two. It's not $800 more than the 700.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:36 PM
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keep in mind that the DN-X1600 offers the same if not more feature and quality wise. its also less than a 1000 euros. Sorry Pioneer, but I don't think is going to be a succes
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:57 PM
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Pioneer as usual is trying to cover the whole DJ mixer price range!
The amount of faders we replace in our Pioneer mixers, i can't get my head around why they made the cover one piece! fuck they are stupid!!

We currently have over biggest Pioneer hire stock in Australia, which is amazing when you think of the amount of time Matt & I spend a week bitching about Pioneer! LOL
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:41 PM
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It seems that this mixer is "Traktor Certified" with a built-in sound card where as the DJM-800 only has digital ins and outs. It seems to me that mixers these days are more about the effects than the mixer itself.

Pioneer has yet to update the EFX unit and I believe its because Pioneer wants to make its effects exclusive to its mixer forcing DJs use only there mixers.

I watched a recent mix on the Pioneer DJ Show with Laidback Luke and as I watched him play he was working the effects like a madman and slamming as many tracks as possible into his mix. I know that the show is glorified commercial to hawk Pioneer gear but it was all noise, where is the music?

I haven't used the Denon X1600 or X1700 but I have an X1100 (when I need a 12" mixer) that I think is a great mixer. No effects, no junk, just a solid 4 channel mixer with matrix routing and flexible enough for all types of DJs. All at a realistic price range. I would take that over any DJM-700.
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:20 PM
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It seems that this mixer is "Traktor Certified" with a built-in sound card where as the DJM-800 only has digital ins and outs. It seems to me that mixers these days are more about the effects than the mixer itself.

What I just don't get: why make a "Traktor Certified" Mixe with effects?

I mean - Traktor comes with a huge range of effects that are at least on par with the pioneer effects...

So, either you buy a Traktor certified mixer or a mixer with effects.. why should anyone want to have both?
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:52 AM
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I watched a recent mix on the Pioneer DJ Show with Laidback Luke and as I watched him play he was working the effects like a madman and slamming as many tracks as possible into his mix. I know that the show is glorified commercial to hawk Pioneer gear but it was all noise, where is the music?

I can't agree more, DJing should be about the music & the crowd but for a lot of DJ's these days it's all about the toys, effects, loops etc.!
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:14 AM
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I like how every official Pioneer mixer picture shows all the meters hard in the red.

"sure it's supposed to be in the red! that's how they show it!!"
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:37 AM
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have you seen the demo video? anyway, I don't think I've ever seen a DJM that wasn't in the red.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:55 AM
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Coming soon Pioneer DJM-800 "Vintage Edition"

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:16 PM
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fender does it, whynot?
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:26 PM
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Hey! That's My Rental Mixer!!!!
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:43 PM
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What I just don't get: why make a "Traktor Certified" Mixe with effects?

I mean - Traktor comes with a huge range of effects that are at least on par with the pioneer effects...

So, either you buy a Traktor certified mixer or a mixer with effects.. why should anyone want to have both?

The only reason that I can see having both is that if your playing CDs and/or if you prefer the tactile feel without adding an additional controller. I guess it would help in a small club installation but if your strictly a DVS DJ, I agree with the utilizing the effects in Traktor.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:37 AM
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[quote=vinyl_junkie]Coming soon Pioneer DJM-800 "Vintage Edition"

Bloody hell thats in an awful state!

I don't think the DJM's 'wear' that well Ive seen quite a few of them in a bit of mess.

I play in a bar every other week that has one, the mixer is only used on friday and saturday night and it really worn - paint missing from around the faders and eq etc along with the odd buttons missing. But Ive never seen one like that before, I dont know how a mixed can get in such a poor state.
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:38 AM
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Coming soon Pioneer DJM-800 "Vintage Edition"

Bloody hell thats in an awful state!

I don't think the DJM's 'wear' that well Ive seen quite a few of them in a bit of mess.

I play in a bar every other week that has one, the mixer is only used on friday and saturday night and it really worn - paint missing from around the faders and eq etc along with the odd buttons missing. But Ive never seen one like that before, I dont know how a mixed can get in such a poor state.

Amazing isn't it lol A lot of people here have original Bozak or Urei mixers from the 70's and 80's that look in better shape than that thing
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:28 AM
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Why can't we have a rotary option with these new mixers?
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:01 AM
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:45 PM
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Pioneer discontinued all rotary kits on their new mixers.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:05 PM
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Pioneer Australia told me they didn't sell enough of the rotary kits to keep the production going.... Pioneer wants the DJ division to sell the quantity's that the car audio division sells, this will never happen of cause, i always think it would be hell to work in the DJ division at Pioneer..
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