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Old 07-19-2011, 01:46 PM
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Jbl E 130-8 Reconing Or?...

Hello.... I Just Got Serviced My Jbl E-130... But The Work (mostly In Eyes ) Isn't What I Expected To... So I Was Thinking About Reconing Them... But Here In Greece The Recone Kit Stop The Stock From Mid 90s... Does Anyone Knows About That Speaker??.. Can I Put Other Jbl Kit On The E-130 Basket?....


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Old 07-19-2011, 09:01 PM
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I would suggest contacting JBL if they still offer replacement parts for the E 130.

In the States, there are many off-brand recone kits sold on Ebay that will adapt to old JBL speakers. However, does not mean they are original recone kits by JBL.

Also, you will need to contact JBL PRO for the E 130 is a guitar speaker.



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Old 07-20-2011, 12:09 AM
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Here In Greece There Is No Reconing Kit For The Jbl E-130 ...i Use Them In The 4530 Scoops . So I Was Wondering If I Could Change The Cone If Any Other Model Newer That Reconing Kits Are Still In Stock .
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:58 AM
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The E 130 is a very old Guitar Speaker. It is probably over 30 years old. Chances are you won’t find a modern recone kit that will function properly in the E 130 basket other than the original or copies of the E 130 recone kit.

The closest driver alternative would be the 2227 but that too is discontinued. The 2226 will offer the most bass out of the three and is still in production.

2227

http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2227.pdf

2226

http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2226.pdf


Bear in mind the E 130 is a full-range speaker whereas the 2226, is a woofer. If you have your heart fixed on the E 130, you can buy a used pair, or quad, on Ebay in the States and have them shipped to Greece.

If you are willing to step away from JBL, Beyma offers the closest E 130 alternative under modern-day power usage that is readily available.

http://profesional.beyma.com/pdf/15MI100E.pdf


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Old 07-21-2011, 03:54 AM
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Thanks Mr Elliot ! The 2226 Need A Huge Amp To Work... I Dont Want A Speaker That Big In Watts (600w) ... The E-130 Has 15ow And Is What I Neet For My Jbl 4530 Cabinets Something More Close To That Watts From Jbl?.... Maybe The Woofer Of The Jbl Eon ?...
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:59 AM
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Had some 2226 loaded 4520 and they work fine with a small amp.
I replaced the 2226 with Precision Devices PD.156 and loved it!
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:42 PM
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the 2226 is a very efficient driver does not need many watts to work 200 watts will get a nice sound out of it

but its always efficiency that dictates what a driver will do the higher the db the driver will play at 1 watt the better
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Old 07-21-2011, 03:52 PM
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I Said That Cause I Got A Pair Of B&c 400w Woofers And Doesn't Work Nice With The Jbl 4530 Cabinets
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Old 07-21-2011, 04:08 PM
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Thanks Mr Elliot ! The 2226 Need A Huge Amp To Work... I Dont Want A Speaker That Big In Watts (600w) ... The E-130 Has 15ow And Is What I Neet For My Jbl 4530 Cabinets Something More Close To That Watts From Jbl?.... Maybe The Woofer Of The Jbl Eon ?...

Finding low power 15-inch drivers will be difficult. The JBL 2226 is considered a lower wattage driver in this day in age.


JBL E 140: 200-watt, 400-watt program

JBL 2226: 300-watt, 600-watt program

The E 140 is more efficient above 500 Hz

The 2226: is more efficient below 200 Hz

The E 140 offers an xmax of 3.5 mm

The 2226 offer an xmax of 7.6 mm

JBL E 140: 99 dB, 1-watt, 1 metre

JBL 2226: 97 dB, 1-watt, 1 metre


If you’ve already damaged the E 140, in which it had to be repaired, why not just buy a better performance driver instead of focusing on the power rating?

The E 140 performed best on midrange not bass.



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Old 07-21-2011, 04:55 PM
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but the 2226 was build in an era that horn loaded speakers was past... is almost new speaker.... does it work fine with a horn loaded speaker?? :/
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:13 PM
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but the 2226 was build in an era that horn loaded speakers was past... is almost new speaker.... does it work fine with a horn loaded speaker?? :/


Who told you that? The JBL 2226 should be close to 30 years old.

I would not suggest the 2226 if I felt it was not suited for your cabinet.

What model B&C did you buy?


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Old 07-21-2011, 07:01 PM
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the B&C PL40 400W RMS - 99DB
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:03 PM
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mr elliot thank u so much for your advices btw im 26 years old but i love the vintage sound... the new things got nothing to give me in sound and appearance
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:06 PM
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The B&C 15 PL 40 is very close to the E 140. What don't you like about this driver?

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Old 07-21-2011, 07:20 PM
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they need much power to move !! and my crown got 2*200w :P and i prefer a jbl cabinet to goes with a jbl driver... that makes it original! )


my drivers are the E-130 not the E-140...
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:06 PM
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they need much power to move !! and my crown got 2*200w :P and i prefer a jbl cabinet to goes with a jbl driver... that makes it original! )


my drivers are the E-130 not the E-140...


Are you certain they are E 130s and not D 130s?

If they are indeed E 130’s, that is a lead guitar speaker. This is why it is so loud. However, that volume comes at an expense of bass. It offers the least amount of bass out of the whole line of JBL 15-inch drivers.

I now understand why you were so concerned about power. Bear in mind the E 130 is as old as I am… 31 years old!

Manufactures usually add a new model within 10 years eliminating their old versions. The only driver that will be as efficient as the JBL E 130 would be the JBL 2220 and, I believe that is gone as well.

The E 140 was the bass guitar version. The E 130 offered even less bass than the E 140. Not many fancied having a 15-inch driver that did not offer Bass so, the E 140 was more popular.

Although, Beyma made a replacement for the E 140, when JBL discontinued the E 130, no one bothered to resurrect the E 130 for, it wasn’t in high demand like the E 140. One could only imagine how popular the E 140 really was if JBL discontinued the model.

There is a place that sells E 130’s used in the States. Possibly, they will ship them to Greece.

If by chance you stumble upon some D 130’s 8-ohm versions, they will be almost as loud as the E 130’s however, handle less power (75 watts). Bear in mind the D 130 is a 60-year old driver and were more popular than the E 130. So you may find them faster than the E 130s in Europe.

All in all it may be cheaper for you to just use the B&C’s and buy a bigger Crown Amplifier. Or sell the B&C’s, buy the 2226 and raise the gains on your Crown amp higher.


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Old 07-21-2011, 10:40 PM
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Rotary Dreams, it sounds like you'll probably be happiest staying with the E130 speakers you have.

The aftermarket kits are never correct and exactly as JBL made it. They often sound and perform different.

I doubt other JBL model cone kits will properly fit your E130 basket as JBL juggled around the gap widths and heights to match different voice coils and applications.

JBL still offers the original re-cone kit. However, it can only be purchased from an authorized JBL re-cone shop and they are not allowed to sell the part. They must do the re-cone job for you.

The JBL international service page lists BonStudio in Athens as an authorized service center. http://www.bonstudio.gr/

If that doesn't work for you, there are many shops here in the US that do authorized JBL re-coning, including a very good shop I constantly uses here in NYC.

You can also ship the speaker to JBL and they'll do the re-cone for you.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:55 AM
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bonstudio doesnt have reconing for the e-130. so the best solution is a pair of 2226?... but as i understand the 2226 can play with a low watt amp and the b&c not?
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